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B2431
February 19th 04, 04:41 AM
(Julious Cesar)
>Date: 2/18/2004 8:47 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>http://natallwest.com/docs/lg/USS_Liberty(CO)lg.gif

It's another neo Nazi site. This time it is from the U.S. and another raging
loon.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Julious Cesar
February 20th 04, 04:23 PM
B2431 wrote
> It's another neo Nazi site. This time it is from the U.S. and another raging
> loon.
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

National Alliance is not a neo-Nazi site:
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2142

B2431
February 20th 04, 05:49 PM
>The attack on the USS Liberty
>From: (Julious Cesar)
>Date: 2/20/2004 10:23 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>B2431 wrote
>> It's another neo Nazi site. This time it is from the U.S. and another
>raging
>> loon.
>> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>
>National Alliance is not a neo-Nazi site:
>http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2142
>
OK, does the phrase "white supremicist" make you happy?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Grantland
February 20th 04, 05:58 PM
(B2431) wrote:

>>The attack on the USS Liberty
>>From: (Julious Cesar)
>>Date: 2/20/2004 10:23 AM Central Standard Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
>>B2431 wrote
>>> It's another neo Nazi site. This time it is from the U.S. and another
>>raging
>>> loon.
>>> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>>
>>National Alliance is not a neo-Nazi site:
>>http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2142
>>
>OK, does the phrase "white supremicist" make you happy?
>
>Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Your jis jellis 'cause'n your not white.

Grantland

tim gueguen
February 20th 04, 09:49 PM
"Julious Cesar" > wrote in message
om...
> B2431 wrote
> > It's another neo Nazi site. This time it is from the U.S. and another
raging
> > loon.
> > Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>
> National Alliance is not a neo-Nazi site:

Oh really? Given that NA founder the late Dr. William Pierce was a former
member of the American Nazi Party and the NA favours Nazi style policies
what would you have us call it? I suppose one could call it a moneymaking
scam originally intended to allow Willie to live well with a minimum of
effort, but I doubt you'd like that any better.

tim gueguen 101867

Pete
February 20th 04, 11:25 PM
"Julious Cesar" > wrote
>
> National Alliance is not a neo-Nazi site:
> http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2142

You can say what you like, but it doesn't make the statement true.

Prove it.

Pete

Julious Cesar
February 21st 04, 02:32 AM
B2431 wrote:
> OK, does the phrase "white supremicist" make you happy?

Better !

Julious Cesar
February 21st 04, 02:47 AM
"Pete" wrote
> "Julious Cesar" wrote
> > National Alliance is not a neo-Nazi site:
> > http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2142

> You can say what you like, but it doesn't make the statement true.
> Prove it.
> Pete

I did not see any Nazi flags. just kidding !!!

"Nazi" has become a term to isolate people, it has been used as a
cheap mean to win an argument. If you do not like somebody just call
him a Nazi, and he would lose friends, support and jobs. Nazi = bad.
It is what the movies put in your mind. Hitler was mad, that is
another story.

America kidnapped Nazi rocket engineers to get to the Moon.

The word Nazi means National Socialist. I know that you know. But do
you know what it "means" ?

Is there any trouble in being nationalist ?
If for "socialist" it can be understood to take care of the social
problems, what is the problem then ? (Note: I do not mean the Carl
Marx's socialism).

Socialism (ala Marx) is a Jewish creation.

If somebody says something bad about the Jews, that person is labeled
a "Nazi". Is the Bible a Nazi book ?

Take a look:
http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?language=english&passage=john+7&version=NIV

B2431
February 21st 04, 04:05 AM
(Julious Cesar)
>
>"Pete" wrote
>> "Julious Cesar" wrote
>> > National Alliance is not a neo-Nazi site:
>> > http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2142
>
>> You can say what you like, but it doesn't make the statement true.
>> Prove it.
>> Pete
>
>I did not see any Nazi flags. just kidding !!!
>
>"Nazi" has become a term to isolate people, it has been used as a
>cheap mean to win an argument. If you do not like somebody just call
>him a Nazi, and he would lose friends, support and jobs. Nazi = bad.
>It is what the movies put in your mind. Hitler was mad, that is
>another story.
>
>America kidnapped Nazi rocket engineers to get to the Moon.
>
>The word Nazi means National Socialist. I know that you know. But do
>you know what it "means" ?
>
>Is there any trouble in being nationalist ?
>If for "socialist" it can be understood to take care of the social
>problems, what is the problem then ? (Note: I do not mean the Carl
>Marx's socialism).
>
>Socialism (ala Marx) is a Jewish creation.
>
>If somebody says something bad about the Jews, that person is labeled
>a "Nazi". Is the Bible a Nazi book ?
>
>Take a look:
>
>http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?language=english&passage=john+7
&version=NIV
>

Very bad choice of Bibles. Try the King James Version. Mary was a Jew which
makes Jesus a Jew.

Antisemitism alone doesn't make one a Nazi, but the NA spews the same filth as
the Nazis. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck it
IS a duck.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

tim gueguen
February 21st 04, 04:10 AM
"Julious Cesar" > wrote in message
om...
> "Pete" wrote
> > "Julious Cesar" wrote
> > > National Alliance is not a neo-Nazi site:
> > > http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2142
>
> > You can say what you like, but it doesn't make the statement true.
> > Prove it.
> > Pete
>
> I did not see any Nazi flags. just kidding !!!
>
> "Nazi" has become a term to isolate people, it has been used as a
> cheap mean to win an argument.

But not in this case. The National Alliance are Neonazis.

If you do not like somebody just call
> him a Nazi, and he would lose friends, support and jobs. Nazi = bad.
> It is what the movies put in your mind.

Thats what any sensible study of history shows.

>Hitler was mad, that is
> another story.
>
> America kidnapped Nazi rocket engineers to get to the Moon.
>
> The word Nazi means National Socialist. I know that you know. But do
> you know what it "means" ?
>
> Is there any trouble in being nationalist ?

If you use the term as an excuse to commit violence both within your country
and against other nations, yes.

> If for "socialist" it can be understood to take care of the social
> problems, what is the problem then ? (Note: I do not mean the Carl
> Marx's socialism).
>
> Socialism (ala Marx) is a Jewish creation.
>
Marx was a German, as was Engels. Strangely Marx's Jewish roots are brought
up by people like you even tho' his parents were converts to Lutheranism and
Marx was apparently non-religious. So why preytell is his supposed
Jewishness more important than his Germaness?

> If somebody says something bad about the Jews, that person is labeled
> a "Nazi".

No, if someone supports Nazi ideas they are labelled a Nazi. If someone
makes outrageous claims about Jews, such as that they are conspiring to take
over the world and suppress Christianity one calls such people antisemites.

tim gueguen 101867

Julious Cesar
February 21st 04, 07:44 PM
(B2431) wrote:
> Very bad choice of Bibles. Try the King James Version. Mary was a Jew which
> makes Jesus a Jew.

When Jesus declared himself the Son of God, he went against the Jewish
belief and then he was not a Jew anymore, right ?

I have seen BIBLES where the book of John 7 is not present, maybe for
political correctness reasons ?

The Jews are so scared about the movie "Passion" for very good
reasons.
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2148

> If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck it IS a
> duck.

Who are you talking about ?

Are you calling THE BIBLE a piece of anti-semitism propaganda ?

B2431
February 22nd 04, 02:43 AM
(Julious Cesar)
>Date: 2/21/2004 1:44 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>(B2431) wrote:
>> Very bad choice of Bibles. Try the King James Version. Mary was a Jew which
>> makes Jesus a Jew.
>
>When Jesus declared himself the Son of God, he went against the Jewish
>belief and then he was not a Jew anymore, right ?
>
>I have seen BIBLES where the book of John 7 is not present, maybe for
>political correctness reasons ?
>
>The Jews are so scared about the movie "Passion" for very good
>reasons.
>http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2148
>
>> If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck it IS a
>> duck.
>
>Who are you talking about ?
>
>Are you calling THE BIBLE a piece of anti-semitism propaganda ?
>
Nope, I am calling you, your interpretation ofthe Bible and the alleged
"church" to which you belong antisemitic and seriously mislead

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Julious Cesar
February 22nd 04, 03:21 PM
B2431 wrote:
> Nope, I am calling you, your interpretation of the Bible and the alleged
> "church" to which you belong antisemitic and seriously mislead.

This is the book of John 7 in the King James Version, the one you
suggested if I remember correctly.

http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=JOHN%2B7&showfn=on&showxref=on&language=english&version=KJV&x=6&y=8

"After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in
Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him."
- John 7:1

(taken from the first page).

Julious Cesar
February 22nd 04, 03:23 PM
"tim gueguen" wrote:

> "Julious Cesar" wrote:
> > Is there any trouble in being nationalist ?
>
> If you use the term as an excuse to commit violence both within your country
> and against other nations, yes.

Sounds that you are talking about Bush and Sharon.

B2431
February 22nd 04, 04:50 PM
(Julious Cesar)
>Date: 2/22/2004 9:21 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>B2431 wrote:
>> Nope, I am calling you, your interpretation of the Bible and the alleged
>> "church" to which you belong antisemitic and seriously mislead.
>
>This is the book of John 7 in the King James Version, the one you
>suggested if I remember correctly.
>
>
>http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=JOHN%2B7&showfn=on&show
xref=on&language=english&version=KJV&x=6&y=8
>
>"After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in
>Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him."
>- John 7:1
>
>(taken from the first page).
>
Much better. If you read the entire NT you will find his deciples were Jews, in
His life time almost all His followers we Jews etc. If you are going to use the
Bible to justify your antisemitism or white supremacy Christ will not know you.


Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Julious Cesar
February 24th 04, 01:23 AM
B2431 wrote:
> Much better. If you read the entire NT you will find his deciples were Jews, in
> His life time almost all His followers we Jews etc. If you are going to use the
> Bible to justify your antisemitism or white supremacy Christ will not know you.


ADL Poll: 25 Percent Blame Jews for Death of Christ
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2176

Jim Doyle
February 24th 04, 03:12 AM
"Julious Cesar" > wrote in message
om...
> B2431 wrote:
> > Much better. If you read the entire NT you will find his deciples were
Jews, in
> > His life time almost all His followers we Jews etc. If you are going to
use the
> > Bible to justify your antisemitism or white supremacy Christ will not
know you.
>
>
> ADL Poll: 25 Percent Blame Jews for Death of Christ
> http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2176

Then blantly 25% of Americans polled know little or nothing of the Bible.
Big Deal!

JimD

Julious Cesar
February 25th 04, 03:28 AM
"Jim Doyle" wrote:
> Then blantly 25% of Americans polled know little or nothing of the Bible.
> Big Deal!
> JimD

If Americans knew more about the BIBLE, that percentage would be
higher or lower than 25% ?

B2431
February 25th 04, 05:53 AM
>The attack on the USS Liberty
>From: (Julious Cesar)
>Date: 2/24/2004 9:28 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>"Jim Doyle" wrote:
>> Then blantly 25% of Americans polled know little or nothing of the Bible.
>> Big Deal!
>> JimD
>
>If Americans knew more about the BIBLE, that percentage would be
>higher or lower than 25% ?
>
Much lower, genius. The people who took Christ to the Romans were a few Jews
who took a dislike to Christ (another Jew) The vast majority of Jews had never
heard of the Christ. Most who knew of him had no problems. I don't know many
Kiafus had on his side, but it was probably les than a couple dozen.

Learn Christ's word or He will not know you when you die.


Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Jim Doyle
February 25th 04, 08:12 PM
"Julious Cesar" > wrote in message
om...
> "Jim Doyle" wrote:
> > Then blantly 25% of Americans polled know little or nothing of the
Bible.
> > Big Deal!
> > JimD
>
> If Americans knew more about the BIBLE, that percentage would be
> higher or lower than 25% ?

Guess that depends on your subjective interpretation of the Bible.
Personally, I'd say lower.

Jim D

Julious Cesar
February 26th 04, 03:35 AM
(B2431) wrote:
> Much lower, genius. The people who took Christ to the Romans were a few Jews
> who took a dislike to Christ (another Jew) The vast majority of Jews had never
> heard of the Christ. Most who knew of him had no problems. I don't know many
> Kiafus had on his side, but it was probably les than a couple dozen.
>
> Learn Christ's word or He will not know you when you die.

But, what would happen when people read the book of John 7 ?

Do not you see all the arguments of the Jews against the movie Passion ?

Julious Cesar
February 29th 04, 02:11 AM
B2431,

Did you run out of arguments ?

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2166
http://natallwest.com/docs/lg/Passion(CO)lg.gif

B2431
February 29th 04, 02:23 AM
(Julious Cesar)
>Date: 2/28/2004 8:11 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>B2431,
>
>Did you run out of arguments ?
>
>http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2166
>http://natallwest.com/docs/lg/Passion(CO)lg.gif
>

No, I just don't feel like arguing with Nazi scum like you.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Julious Cesar
February 29th 04, 11:16 PM
B2431 wrote:
> >Julious Cesar
> >Date: 2/28/2004 8:11 PM Central Standard Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >B2431,
> >
> >Did you run out of arguments ?
> >
> >http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2166
> >http://natallwest.com/docs/lg/Passion(CO)lg.gif
> >
>
> No, I just don't feel like arguing with Nazi scum like you.
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

I think you just run out of arguments.

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2254

To be a real Christian is to consider that the jewish belief that
Jesus was not the Son of God is wrong.

So, the Christian and the Jewish religions are in a mutual
contradiction. Before WWII, Christianity was a very anti-semitic
religion.

Tarver Engineering
February 29th 04, 11:20 PM
"Julious Cesar" > wrote in message
om...
> B2431 wrote:
> > >Julious Cesar
> > >Date: 2/28/2004 8:11 PM Central Standard Time
> > >Message-id: >
> > >
> > >B2431,
> > >
> > >Did you run out of arguments ?
> > >
> > >http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2166
> > >http://natallwest.com/docs/lg/Passion(CO)lg.gif
> > >
> >
> > No, I just don't feel like arguing with Nazi scum like you.
> >
> > Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>
> I think you just run out of arguments.
>
> http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2254
>
> To be a real Christian is to consider that the jewish belief that
> Jesus was not the Son of God is wrong.
>
> So, the Christian and the Jewish religions are in a mutual
> contradiction. Before WWII, Christianity was a very anti-semitic
> religion.

Jews have gone about their business unmolested in america since 1650. There
was the rise of racism and anti-semitism in at the turn of the 20th century,
just like the rest of the World, but we don't act like Europe. The church
of darwin was at it's peak and hated of one another was everywhere.

Christopher Morton
February 29th 04, 11:46 PM
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 15:20:53 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
> wrote:

>
>"Julious Cesar" > wrote in message
om...
>> B2431 wrote:
>> > >Julious Cesar
>> > >Date: 2/28/2004 8:11 PM Central Standard Time
>> > >Message-id: >
>> > >
>> > >B2431,
>> > >
>> > >Did you run out of arguments ?
>> > >
>> > >http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2166
>> > >http://natallwest.com/docs/lg/Passion(CO)lg.gif
>> > >
>> >
>> > No, I just don't feel like arguing with Nazi scum like you.
>> >
>> > Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>>
>> I think you just run out of arguments.
>>
>> http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2254
>>
>> To be a real Christian is to consider that the jewish belief that
>> Jesus was not the Son of God is wrong.
>>
>> So, the Christian and the Jewish religions are in a mutual
>> contradiction. Before WWII, Christianity was a very anti-semitic
>> religion.
>
>Jews have gone about their business unmolested in america since 1650. There
>was the rise of racism and anti-semitism in at the turn of the 20th century,
>just like the rest of the World, but we don't act like Europe. The church
>of darwin was at it's peak and hated of one another was everywhere.

Only in America did Jews have the capability to make it physically
dangerous to persecute them.

--
More blood for oil... in my name!

Tarver Engineering
March 1st 04, 12:26 AM
"Christopher Morton" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 15:20:53 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Julious Cesar" > wrote in message
> om...
> >> B2431 wrote:
> >> > >Julious Cesar
> >> > >Date: 2/28/2004 8:11 PM Central Standard Time
> >> > >Message-id: >
> >> > >
> >> > >B2431,
> >> > >
> >> > >Did you run out of arguments ?
> >> > >
> >> > >http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2166
> >> > >http://natallwest.com/docs/lg/Passion(CO)lg.gif
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > No, I just don't feel like arguing with Nazi scum like you.
> >> >
> >> > Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
> >>
> >> I think you just run out of arguments.
> >>
> >> http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2254
> >>
> >> To be a real Christian is to consider that the jewish belief that
> >> Jesus was not the Son of God is wrong.
> >>
> >> So, the Christian and the Jewish religions are in a mutual
> >> contradiction. Before WWII, Christianity was a very anti-semitic
> >> religion.
> >
> >Jews have gone about their business unmolested in america since 1650.
There
> >was the rise of racism and anti-semitism in at the turn of the 20th
century,
> >just like the rest of the World, but we don't act like Europe. The
church
> >of darwin was at it's peak and hated of one another was everywhere.
>
> Only in America did Jews have the capability to make it physically
> dangerous to persecute them.

No, the Jews rolled up when the English invaded New York. It is there that
the first record of Old Europe's outrage at seeing Jews going about the
business is publicly recorded. Jew lovers and Yankee doddle Dandees were
the favorite slanders the English threw at the Colonials.

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